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"Long answer: emphatically not." -- Larry Wall, in '' title: This week on the Perl 6 mailing lists see_also: - name: Perl Foundation activities uri: http://blog.perlfoundation.org - name: Perl 6 Development uri: http://dev.perl.org/perl6 - name: Planet Perl Six uri: http://planetsix.perlfoundation.org/ lists: - name: perl6-language threads: - date_from: 1165858433 date_to: 1166632722 hidden: ~ message_id: 457D965C.2010701@barco.com messages: - 457E6B53.2060006@barco.com - 7ca3f0160612122251t7bcb3c5x291561e44c524bcb@mail.gmail.com - 457FEBA7.5020906@barco.com - ef30550b0612130635m5a3aee9eu7db6c18e2aa34d9@mail.gmail.com - 458033EB.1070408@barco.com - ef30550b0612131034k3602fa12mc8552b2135ea04a6@mail.gmail.com - 7ca3f0160612131445w63a8e7c5x2612d14eefae0108@mail.gmail.com - ef30550b0612132313v49a91905w36c464ba0c1427fa@mail.gmail.com - 20061216191240.GA21739@wall.org - 458966FC.50301@barco.com - ef30550b0612161653s215d4c8dg2a01a624a26b97ce@mail.gmail.com - 45813A82.3080706@barco.com - 7ca3f0160612122255u1ab69839n3d93acdb23ae07ce@mail.gmail.com - 4580357F.8020504@barco.com - ef30550b0612130058q3812a222k610b6f199b77a166@mail.gmail.com - 20061213112540.GH5621@stripey.com - ef30550b0612130636y26b6340ax144f33b19c212e97@mail.gmail.com - 003101c71eca$c2bf6a20$0b01a8c0@isolution.nl - 20061213184617.GB4631@wall.org - 45813E32.4020907@barco.com - 20061214122626.GA25093@stripey.com - 458169FC.1050800@barco.com - 457FF4A0.7040109@barco.com - 080401c71ebb$0805bd60$0b01a8c0@isolution.nl - ef30550b0612111115n13181057ib8b27b2585c9cfd7@mail.gmail.com - 457E6B53.2060006@barco.com - 7ca3f0160612122251t7bcb3c5x291561e44c524bcb@mail.gmail.com - 457FEBA7.5020906@barco.com - ef30550b0612130635m5a3aee9eu7db6c18e2aa34d9@mail.gmail.com - 458033EB.1070408@barco.com - ef30550b0612131034k3602fa12mc8552b2135ea04a6@mail.gmail.com - 7ca3f0160612131445w63a8e7c5x2612d14eefae0108@mail.gmail.com - ef30550b0612132313v49a91905w36c464ba0c1427fa@mail.gmail.com - 20061216191240.GA21739@wall.org - 458966FC.50301@barco.com - ef30550b0612161653s215d4c8dg2a01a624a26b97ce@mail.gmail.com - 45813A82.3080706@barco.com - 7ca3f0160612122255u1ab69839n3d93acdb23ae07ce@mail.gmail.com - 4580357F.8020504@barco.com - ef30550b0612130058q3812a222k610b6f199b77a166@mail.gmail.com - 20061213112540.GH5621@stripey.com - ef30550b0612130636y26b6340ax144f33b19c212e97@mail.gmail.com - 003101c71eca$c2bf6a20$0b01a8c0@isolution.nl - 20061213184617.GB4631@wall.org - 45813E32.4020907@barco.com - 20061214122626.GA25093@stripey.com - 458169FC.1050800@barco.com - 457FF4A0.7040109@barco.com - 080401c71ebb$0805bd60$0b01a8c0@isolution.nl posters: - email: Thomas.Sandlass@barco.com name: TSa - email: lrpalmer@gmail.com name: Luke Palmer - email: dataweaver@gmail.com name: Jonathan Lang - email: larry@wall.org name: Larry Wall - email: Smylers@stripey.com name: Smylers - email: rvtol@isolution.nl name: Ruud H.G. van Tol subject: supertyping summary: |- Earlier, TSa asked about supertyping, specifically if supertyping will exist in Perl 6. Larry Wall wanted to see some more complicated use cases which would demonstrate that the concept was useful rather than simply an aspect of type theory. Several other people contributed to the thread. This week, Jonathan Lang addressed TSa's other question of what would happen if an object's type changed while its identity was preserved. Tsa replied to the subthread. - date_from: 1166292737 date_to: 1166292737 hidden: small correction message_id: 20061216191142.85829CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13492 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' - date_from: 1166443383 date_to: 1166486347 hidden: ~ message_id: 4586835B.8060206@numeninest.com messages: - 20061218183119.GA28112@wall.org - 4587039D.9090603@numeninest.com - 7ca3f0160612181558l36156b5fl42bcdf026a3c09f0@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: bsdz@numeninest.com name: Blair Sutton - email: larry@wall.org name: Larry Wall - email: lrpalmer@gmail.com name: Luke Palmer subject: RAII in Perl6/Parrot summary: |- Blair Sutton asked if Perl 6 would be able to do RAII. He cited some articles which expressed the view that it was not possible in Python due to the fact that garbage collection does not offer deterministic finalization. This led to the question of whether Perl 6 would suffer from the same problem due to Parrot's style of garbage collection. Larry Wall replied that deterministic reference counting was only one way to provide transactional security and timely destruction. He assured Blair that Perl 6 has ways to let you not care about some dependencies, while paying attention to others. Blair appreciated Larry's explanation, and admitted to relying on the deterministic nature of C++, and using RAII to manage locks between threads and tear apart sockets cleanly. He asked for an example of Perl 6 offering the capability to execute code once every reference to an object has been removed. Luke Palmer replied that the `LEAVE` closure trait was a general method for addressing this. - date_from: 1166489466 date_to: 1166489466 hidden: looks like a clarification message_id: 20061219015055.46A52CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13493 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' - date_from: 1166515393 date_to: 1166515393 hidden: looks like a clarification message_id: 20061219090300.C91B3CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13494 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' - date_from: 1166516455 date_to: 1166671453 hidden: adding a cross reference message_id: 20061219092040.EC65ECBA1B@x12.develooper.com messages: - 20061220222455.GG5090@stripey.com - 20061221025526.GA31175@wall.org posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry - email: Smylers@stripey.com name: Smylers - email: larry@wall.org name: Larry Wall subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13495 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' - date_from: 1166517172 date_to: 1166517172 hidden: date correction message_id: 20061219093245.087ADCBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13496 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' - date_from: 1166665381 date_to: 1166665381 hidden: looks small message_id: 20061221024253.5863ECBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13497 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: '' title: Language - name: perl6-internals threads: - date_from: 1106870780 date_to: 1166344490 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.0.11-33962-106600.5.84265175836748@perl.org messages: - 200501280849.j0S8n6E10796@thu8.leo.home - 198c87380501280719736eb450@mail.gmail.com - 200501291327.j0TDR8G15599@thu8.leo.home - rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166344479-1333.33962-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Matt Diephouse - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch - email: mddiep@gmail.com name: Matt Diephouse rt_ticket: 'perl #33962' subject: '[perl #33962] readline returns one too many lines ' summary: |- Allison Randal reviewed ticket , which was created almost a year ago by Matt Diephouse to report that the readline opcode returns too many lines. She decided to leave the ticket open and link it to the I/O PDD ticket. - date_from: 1115649356 date_to: 1166566232 hidden: ~ message_id: 427F75F3.1090505@toetsch.at messages: - 200612192310.15838.lt@toetsch.at posters: - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch subject: 'Re: [perl #34994] [TODO] make useful parts of Parrot config available at runtime' summary: |- Leopold Toetsch responded to ticket , which was created in April. He noted that there had been several attempts to solve the issue, and the only working scheme was to link with an object file which had the path inside. He left it as 'todo'. - date_from: 1154081755 date_to: 1166322236 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166322228-1872.39997-14-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1735-1154081726-1646.39997-72-0@perl.org - 1d9a3f400607281151u2e4a369bg86457b21f745ddb5@mail.gmail.com - rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166297868-167.39997-15-0@perl.org - 20061216222334.GB19866@host.pmichaud.com posters: - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com name: Paul Cochrane via RT - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: David Romano - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com name: jerry gay - email: pmichaud@pobox.com name: Patrick R. Michaud rt_ticket: 'perl #39997' subject: '[perl #39997] [PATCH] PGE P5 Test Cleanup ' summary: |- Patrick R. Michaud and Paul Cochrane looked at ticket , which was written in July. Patrick felt that it was safe to close the ticket, because all 'skip' and 'todo' markers had been factored out of the regex test files. Paul resolved the ticket. - date_from: 1161006754 date_to: 1166586186 hidden: ~ message_id: 8e8ee0d40612190554k45efd27ve3c11996f182f0d0@mail.gmail.com messages: - 458829FA.7000003@perl.org - 20061219200551.GC80469@plum.flirble.org - 458854BE.8080407@perl.org - da43c2e0612191942x38efe099p15bb109d7ee8b1f5@mail.gmail.com - 20061219233305.GD80469@plum.flirble.org - 45888410.4070608@perl.org - 8e8ee0d40612192301i7db64d2blef11bfa277f2d46b@mail.gmail.com - 20061220204546.GE80469@plum.flirble.org - 200612191123.56369.chromatic@wgz.org - 8e8ee0d40610160652w769d165h9ff3cf37a0047a70@mail.gmail.com - rt-3.5.HEAD-1641-1163605103-447.40361-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166294471-987.40361-15-0@perl.org - 2FAA558D-66E5-4978-9D48-E3D9D65CA241@chrisdolan.net - 17797.41598.953649.328033@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 17797.46226.589630.828279@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 8e8ee0d40612172357t626a3fc4q1ed21de5b7461cc2@mail.gmail.com - 4587A99C.9060905@perl.org - da43c2e0612190120tac60049i826f8d4c8b91623f@mail.gmail.com - 20061219133807.GA13470@host.pmichaud.com - 458829FA.7000003@perl.org - 20061219200551.GC80469@plum.flirble.org - 458854BE.8080407@perl.org - da43c2e0612191942x38efe099p15bb109d7ee8b1f5@mail.gmail.com - 20061219233305.GD80469@plum.flirble.org - 45888410.4070608@perl.org - 8e8ee0d40612192301i7db64d2blef11bfa277f2d46b@mail.gmail.com - 20061220204546.GE80469@plum.flirble.org - 200612191123.56369.chromatic@wgz.org - 7C5EFF38-EDE1-4423-AF8E-37DB980DF786@chrisdolan.net - 4587A99C.9060905@perl.org - da43c2e0612190120tac60049i826f8d4c8b91623f@mail.gmail.com - 20061219133807.GA13470@host.pmichaud.com - 458829FA.7000003@perl.org - 20061219200551.GC80469@plum.flirble.org - 458854BE.8080407@perl.org - da43c2e0612191942x38efe099p15bb109d7ee8b1f5@mail.gmail.com - 20061219233305.GD80469@plum.flirble.org - 45888410.4070608@perl.org - 8e8ee0d40612192301i7db64d2blef11bfa277f2d46b@mail.gmail.com - 20061220204546.GE80469@plum.flirble.org - 200612191123.56369.chromatic@wgz.org - 2FAA558D-66E5-4978-9D48-E3D9D65CA241@chrisdolan.net - 17797.41598.953649.328033@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 17797.46226.589630.828279@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 8e8ee0d40612172357t626a3fc4q1ed21de5b7461cc2@mail.gmail.com - 4587A99C.9060905@perl.org - da43c2e0612190120tac60049i826f8d4c8b91623f@mail.gmail.com - 20061219133807.GA13470@host.pmichaud.com - 458829FA.7000003@perl.org - 20061219200551.GC80469@plum.flirble.org - 458854BE.8080407@perl.org - da43c2e0612191942x38efe099p15bb109d7ee8b1f5@mail.gmail.com - 20061219233305.GD80469@plum.flirble.org - 45888410.4070608@perl.org - 8e8ee0d40612192301i7db64d2blef11bfa277f2d46b@mail.gmail.com - 20061220204546.GE80469@plum.flirble.org - 200612191123.56369.chromatic@wgz.org - 7C5EFF38-EDE1-4423-AF8E-37DB980DF786@chrisdolan.net posters: - email: paultcochrane@gmail.com name: Paul Cochrane - email: allison@perl.org name: Allison Randal - email: nick@ccl4.org name: Nicholas Clark - email: lee.duhem@gmail.com name: Lee Duhem - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Paul Cochrane via RT - email: chris@chrisdolan.net name: Chris Dolan - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org name: Bob Rogers - email: pmichaud@pobox.com name: Patrick R. Michaud subject: 'Re: [perl #40361] [PATCH] #40278 [CAGE] perl coding standards coda. (cont.)' summary: |- Ticket from September was revived and elicited a great deal of discussion between Paul Cochrane, Chris Dolan, Bob Rogers, Allison Randal, Lee Duhem, Patrick R. Michaud, chromatic, and Nicholas Clark. It started with Paul suggesting that the ticket could be closed once a decision was made on where formatting information for emacs and vim should be located. Chris mentioned a limitation with the verbose form of the Emacs settings. Bob elaborated, offering a patch as a work-around. Allison suggested removing all emacs and vim settings from the source code files. She felt that having the tests check for correct formatting addressed the issue without the maintenance costs of editor tips. Patrick and chromatic agreed with her suggestion. Paul thought that editor hints reduce the amount of cage cleaning work by ensuring that code contributions use the correct style. Nicholas Clark pointed out that the alternative, top-level editor settings, assumes that all a developer's projects use the same coding standard. After further discussion on options, Allison proposed that for the time being, hints would be left out of Perl files with `__END__` or `__DATA__` blocks. A future task would be for someone to figure out a way to encourage good habits, without cluttering the source code or assuming that everyone uses emacs or vim. Paul updated the Perl::Critic policy accordingly, and made a note in PDD07. - date_from: 1165036780 date_to: 1166453834 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166453820-46.40950-15-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165036768-794.41032-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Steve Peters via RT rt_ticket: 'perl #40950' subject: '[perl #40950] [PATCH] Compiling Parrot with the new Borland C++ ' summary: |- Steve Peters added a reminder to ticket that a patch still needs to be applied for compiling Parrot with Borland C++. - date_from: 1165721240 date_to: 1165890115 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13138-1165721213-1892.41064-72-0@perl.org messages: - D5A3CC71-D3C4-44D4-BBA7-A77803A8AAD9@coleda.com - 5B71008B-1343-4B31-9E20-5DD89B9BA9F1@verizon.net - 471DE908-39DF-4D52-A8A6-552F56B05C75@coleda.com - 457C9D5B.4010008@yahoo.com - 92794675-C277-4025-88B8-501BD3B34D13@coleda.com - 457CAEEC.8060909@yahoo.com - 457CB308.5030104@yahoo.com - 457CB69A.6000103@yahoo.com - DB3882F2-ADF7-4013-B6A0-B36FC1A705C1@coleda.com - 1d9a3f400612110642t2441be37nfc815f40505c82d8@mail.gmail.com - 200612111813.47880.chromatic@wgz.org - F1DE116B-2B3E-449A-ADC9-4076A7CB7E34@coleda.com - 0B915649-3A3F-4258-A82D-5631EEE30226@coleda.com - 458581E5.8000605@yahoo.com - 457CB69A.6000103@yahoo.com - DB3882F2-ADF7-4013-B6A0-B36FC1A705C1@coleda.com - 1d9a3f400612110642t2441be37nfc815f40505c82d8@mail.gmail.com - 200612111813.47880.chromatic@wgz.org - F1DE116B-2B3E-449A-ADC9-4076A7CB7E34@coleda.com - 0B915649-3A3F-4258-A82D-5631EEE30226@coleda.com - 458581E5.8000605@yahoo.com - D5A3CC71-D3C4-44D4-BBA7-A77803A8AAD9@coleda.com - 5B71008B-1343-4B31-9E20-5DD89B9BA9F1@verizon.net - 471DE908-39DF-4D52-A8A6-552F56B05C75@coleda.com - 457C9D5B.4010008@yahoo.com - 92794675-C277-4025-88B8-501BD3B34D13@coleda.com - 457CAEEC.8060909@yahoo.com - 457CB308.5030104@yahoo.com - 457CB69A.6000103@yahoo.com - DB3882F2-ADF7-4013-B6A0-B36FC1A705C1@coleda.com - 1d9a3f400612110642t2441be37nfc815f40505c82d8@mail.gmail.com - 200612111813.47880.chromatic@wgz.org - F1DE116B-2B3E-449A-ADC9-4076A7CB7E34@coleda.com - 0B915649-3A3F-4258-A82D-5631EEE30226@coleda.com - 458581E5.8000605@yahoo.com - rt-3.6.HEAD-13138-1165759631-1006.41064-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan - email: will@coleda.com name: Will Coleda - email: jkeen@verizon.net name: James Keenan - email: jkeen_via_google@yahoo.com name: James E Keenan - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com name: jerry gay - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic rt_ticket: 'perl #41064' subject: "[perl #41064] Not-so-new 'make' failures on Darwin " summary: |- James Keenan was happy to report in ticket that further suggestions from Will Coleda fixed his problem. - date_from: 1165909793 date_to: 1166426612 hidden: ~ message_id: 5.1.0.14.2.20061212084536.0277dff0@pop.besancon.parkeon.com messages: - 5.1.0.14.2.20061218081835.04efec68@pop.besancon.parkeon.com posters: - email: francois.perrad@gadz.org name: François PERRAD - email: fperrad@besancon.parkeon.com name: Francois PERRAD subject: Side effect between exit & .HLL summary: |- Last week, François Perrad showed some example code where an error of 'no exception handler' was seen when a .HLL directive was added before a simple subroutine. This week he supplied a patch to address the issue. - date_from: 1166285628 date_to: 1166488832 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166285615-1063.41095-72-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166488824-706.41095-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Nikolay Ananiev rt_ticket: 'perl #41095' subject: '[perl #41095] [BUG] Segfault in test.exe during Configuration ' summary: |- In ticket , Nikolay Ananiev reported a segmentation fault on Win32. Jonathan Worthington thanked him for the report, and stated that other solutions were being looked at. - date_from: 1166288025 date_to: 1166654308 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166288017-432.40802-15-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166654300-469.40802-14-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: jnthn@jnthn.net via RT - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com name: jnthn@jnthn.net via RT rt_ticket: 'perl #40802' subject: '[perl #40802] Investigate Supposed JIT Bug with if/unless Optimization ' summary: |- Jonathan Worthington responded to Matt Diephouse's ticket . He replied that the bug had been fixed, so he removed the comment from the code. - date_from: 1166293783 date_to: 1166429310 hidden: reply to 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED0@dix.TechForge message_id: 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ECF@dix.TechForge messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166359850-1012.41099-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166359703-1500.41099-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166293773-609.41099-72-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166429298-608.41099-14-0@perl.org posters: - email: eric@lubow.org name: Eric B. Lubow - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Paul Cochrane via RT - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com name: Paul Cochrane via RT subject: 'RE: [perl #41099] [PATCH] root.in Makefile and CREDITS ' summary: '' - date_from: 1166295326 date_to: 1166461231 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166295315-1671.40816-15-0@perl.org messages: - 1d9a3f400612180900s57c6fe2dye1ad76a1828e1e92@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: jnthn@jnthn.net via RT - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com name: jerry gay rt_ticket: 'perl #40816' subject: "[perl #40816] open opcode creates file if it doesn't exist " summary: |- Jonathan Worthington responded to open ticket to clarify that he did not think that it was a bug for '+<' to be the default mode. Jerry Gay felt that it was a bug, unless it was explicitly documented that 'open' would create a file as default. - date_from: 1166300430 date_to: 1166300430 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166300422-628.40801-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Kevin Tew via RT rt_ticket: 'perl #40801' subject: '[perl #40801] [TODO] Rename enter_nci_method to something better ' summary: |- Matt Diephouse created ticket to request a new name for `enter_nci_method`. Kevin Tew suggested `register_nci_method`. - date_from: 1166301532 date_to: 1166301532 hidden: ~ message_id: 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED0@dix.TechForge posters: - email: eric@lubow.org name: Eric B. Lubow subject: '[perl #41099] [PATCH] root.in Makefile and CREDITS ' summary: |- Eric B. Lubow created ticket to include a patch to the makefile. Paul Cochrane noted that there were two patches and asked which one should be applied. Eric clarified, and Paul applied the patch as r16183. - date_from: 1166305143 date_to: 1166307159 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1774-1166305134-155.41102-72-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166307151-1365.41102-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: David Woldrich rt_ticket: 'perl #41102' subject: '[perl #41102] [PATCH] On Win32 with Visual C++, nmake was not automatically selected if mingw was also found on the system ' summary: |- David Woldrich reported a problem with the Parrot configuration script and included a patch, which was applied as r16129. Ticket tracked the bug. - date_from: 1166306067 date_to: 1166306067 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166306059-141.41103-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Patrick R . Michaud rt_ticket: 'perl #41103' subject: "[perl #41103] [BUG] stdin.'readline'() segfaults on systems w/o readline support " summary: |- In ticket , Patrick R. Michaud reported a segmentation fault. - date_from: 1166308534 date_to: 1166487834 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166487812-909.41104-15-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166308524-1346.41104-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: jnthn@jnthn.net via RT rt_ticket: 'perl #41104' subject: '[perl #41104] [PATCH] Building on MinGW is disrupted by the presence of /bin/sh.exe on the PATH, docs explain required environment change ' summary: |- David Woldrich's ticket contained a patch which was applied as r16187. - date_from: 1166310782 date_to: 1166310782 hidden: small commit message_id: 20061217001254.33983CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: allison@cvs.perl.org name: allison subject: '[svn:parrot-pdd] r16133 - trunk/docs/pdds/clip' summary: '' - date_from: 1166324367 date_to: 1166405473 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166324359-1217.41105-72-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166326192-1481.41105-15-0@perl.org - 200612171731.12399.chromatic@wgz.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Steve Peters - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic rt_ticket: 'perl #41105' subject: '[perl #41105] [PATCH] Silence a warning on Cygwin ' summary: |- Steve Peters created a patch to eliminate some warnings on Cygwin. It was applied as r16177 and can be viewed as ticket . - date_from: 1166327075 date_to: 1166327075 hidden: looks like clarification not real changes to the standards message_id: 20061217044426.5FD29CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: allison@cvs.perl.org name: allison subject: '[svn:parrot-pdd] r16137 - trunk/docs/pdds' summary: '' - date_from: 1166373781 date_to: 1166373781 hidden: ~ message_id: 8e8ee0d40612170842u3c709e43m651cc101d1bdd838@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: paultcochrane@gmail.com name: Paul Cochrane subject: Generated .pm files in MANIFEST summary: |- Paul Cochrane wanted to know why some files, which are auto-generated, are mentioned in `MANIFEST` instead of `MANIFEST.generated`. He planned to move them if there were no objections. - date_from: 1166379125 date_to: 1166379125 hidden: reply to 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED0@dix.TechForge message_id: 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED3@dix.TechForge posters: - email: eric@lubow.org name: Eric B. Lubow subject: 'RE: [perl #41099] [PATCH] root.in Makefile and CREDITS ' summary: '' - date_from: 1166379444 date_to: 1166379444 hidden: reply to 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED0@dix.TechForge message_id: 3A23C7641934814ABF8ECAECC0D036082B3ED4@dix.TechForge posters: - email: eric@lubow.org name: Eric B. Lubow subject: 'RE: [perl #41099] [PATCH] root.in Makefile and CREDITS ' summary: '' - date_from: 1166412593 date_to: 1166524204 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166412586-820.31652-15-0@perl.org messages: - 45866D45.1090105@jwcs.net - 4586793B.6080909@rblasch.org - 458733F7.6020800@jnthn.net - 4587BF13.2040101@rblasch.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-1774-1166453724-855.31652-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: chromatic via RT - email: jonathan@jwcs.net name: Jonathan Worthington - email: mailing-lists@rblasch.org name: Ron Blaschke - email: jonathan@jnthn.net name: Jonathan Worthington rt_ticket: 'perl #31652' subject: '[perl #31652] [TODO] Win32 - Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 ' summary: |- In ticket , chromatic asked if the toolkit was still required, now that ICU is available. Jonathan Worthington replied that the toolkit was one of the easiest ways to get a C compiler for Windows, and therefore it was still useful to have it documented. Ron Blaschke commented that he thought it was going to be discontinued. Jonathan Worthington requested a patch for `readme.win32.pod`, which Ron agreed to write. - date_from: 1166451368 date_to: 1166451368 hidden: summary message_id: 20061218141500.26933.qmail@x1.develooper.com posters: - email: perlbug-summary@perl.org name: Parrot Bug Summary subject: Parrot Bug Summary summary: '' - date_from: 1166495134 date_to: 1166652712 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1683-1166495125-468.41110-72-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-1814-1166652701-539.41110-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Jarkko Hietaniemi rt_ticket: 'perl #41110' subject: '[perl #41110] [PATCH] tru64: compile (src/nci.c) and runtime (src/memory.c) ' summary: |- Jarkko Hietaniemi created ticket to provide patches, which were applied as r16208. - date_from: 1166525690 date_to: 1166808057 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1774-1166525681-852.39802-15-0@perl.org messages: - 458C13E5.1010705@tewk.com - rt-3.6.HEAD-1693-1166555494-884.39802-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Paul Cochrane via RT - email: tewk@tewk.com name: Kevin Tew rt_ticket: 'perl #39802' subject: '[perl #39802] [PATCH] [CAGE] turning up the warnings levels in gcc as much as we can ' summary: |- Some time ago, Kevin Tew created ticket to offer a patch to increase warning levels in gcc. Paul Cochrane applied a modified version of the patch but asked what version of gcc some of the flags belonged to, as they did not work with his gcc. Kevin replied. - date_from: 1166566338 date_to: 1166653670 hidden: ~ message_id: 4589A2E1.2060204@landgren.net messages: - 4589B8E1.2070300@landgren.net - 200612192312.05576.lt@toetsch.at posters: - email: david@landgren.net name: David Landgren - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch subject: 'Re: [perl #39742] [BUG] installed parrot conflicts with dev parrot.' summary: |- A while ago, Will Coleda reported in ticket that there was a conflict between an installed version of Parrot and a development version. Recently, Leopold Toetsch reported that it seemed like a BSD linker issue, because he couldn't verify the problem on Linux. David Landgren was able to verify that the problem is not resolved. - date_from: 1166590744 date_to: 1166729411 hidden: ~ message_id: 3C7335FD-12A2-4038-A379-0FDC76914FA0@coleda.com messages: - 200612202015.58622.lt@toetsch.at - 4589C056.3040903@jnthn.net - 20061220231317.GB5487@host.pmichaud.com - 1d9a3f400612210825g2a849b0x4da06445f3e6ecb1@mail.gmail.com - 458AE0B4.50505@perl.org posters: - email: will@coleda.com name: Will Coleda - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch - email: jonathan@jnthn.net name: Jonathan Worthington - email: pmichaud@pobox.com name: Patrick R. Michaud - email: jerry.gay@gmail.com name: jerry gay - email: allison@perl.org name: Allison Randal subject: More Undef vs. Null... summary: |- Will Coleda wanted to know if Hash and Array keys are meant to have different results when keys are unset. Leopold's opinion was that the `.Undefs` returned by Arrays are a legacy, and that `.Null` is correct. Jonathan Worthington submitted a patch which changes the PMC to use `.Null`. However, he did not want to apply it until there was a design decision, and until he'd had a chance to fix some of the code which expected to receive `.Undef`. Patrick R. Michaud added that there are several places where `.Undef` was expected. He had no strong feelings about one design over another, but wanted people to be aware of the impact the change would have. Jerry Gay felt that it would take a coordinated effort and suggested a dedicated day for the change, with community involvement. Allison Randall gave the decision in favor of consistent use of null. She requested that someone add a note about the change in `DEPRECATED.pod`. - date_from: 1166628921 date_to: 1166698569 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166628911-580.40253-15-0@perl.org messages: - 23A8C1B8-6F59-4657-97ED-72FF05FDB3DA@coleda.com - rt-3.6.HEAD-1834-1166698560-1223.40253-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Paul Cochrane via RT - email: will@coleda.com name: Will Coleda rt_ticket: 'perl #40253' subject: '[perl #40253] [PATCH] [CAGE] always cast printf("%p") to (void *) ' summary: |- Ticket received an update from Paul Cochrane, who asked if the patch should still be applied. Will Coleda was satisfied with whatever portions of the patch Paul had been able to apply. This was done as r16211. - date_from: 1166642661 date_to: 1166810846 hidden: ~ message_id: 45898DD1.6080606@rblasch.org messages: - 200612201142.17793.chromatic@wgz.org - 4589A6E1.1080709@rblasch.org - 200612202328.07958.lt@toetsch.at - 458C1EC9.3040908@rblasch.org posters: - email: mailing-lists@rblasch.org name: Ron Blaschke - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch subject: Assertions and MMD (on Windows XP) summary: |- Ron Blaschke had some problems with compiling Parrot on Win XP with Visual C++ when assertions were enabled. He wanted to know if anyone else had this problem, and why the assertion checks if the lowest two bits of a function pointer are zero. chromatic explained that those two bits will be zero if the pointer is raw. Leopold Toetsch added that it was a hack, and the solution was to replace the table with an MMD cache representation. - date_from: 1166666679 date_to: 1166666679 hidden: ~ message_id: 200612201804.12189.chromatic@wgz.org posters: - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic subject: Janitor Tasks summary: |- chromatic reported that he was creating the next Perl.com newsletter and needed a list of Cage Cleaner tasks suitable for someone with Perl and C skills, but very little free time? - date_from: 1166744266 date_to: 1166744266 hidden: ~ message_id: 198c87380612211537w64f09063x6869c4ff21eded4c@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: mddiep@gmail.com name: Matt Diephouse subject: Bind to an Unspecified Port summary: |- Matt Diephouse is writing a PIR socket library. He found that if he uses '0' as the desired port, the OS will select a port, but that Parrot offers no way to discover what the port was. He included a patch which fixed this for UNIX, and requested help with the Windows version. title: Parrot Porters - name: perl6-users threads: - date_from: 1166387396 date_to: 1166387396 hidden: ~ message_id: 567293.5931.qm@web60817.mail.yahoo.com posters: - email: publiustemp-perl6users@yahoo.com name: Ovid subject: Unwanted scalar references summary: |- Ovid thanked the mailing list for answering some of his earlier questions. His latest question was how to dereference an unexpected scalar reference. - date_from: 1166392825 date_to: 1166406285 hidden: ~ message_id: em4eav$56h$1@sea.gmane.org messages: - 35B356AC-53C8-4C1E-8BAA-9C432F9AE174@audreyt.org - em4rpc$dif$1@sea.gmane.org posters: - email: fayland@gmail.com name: Fayland Lam - email: audreyt@audreyt.org name: Audrey Tang subject: 'hello, does anybody who knows the svn respo of synopsis docs?' summary: |- Fayland Lam asked for the location of the synopsis repository. Audrey Tang replied with [the repository URL](http://svn.perl.org/perl6/doc/trunk/design/syn/). - date_from: 1166476667 date_to: 1166476667 hidden: 'Seems to have been posted twice, 719221.79202.qm@web60818.mail.yahoo.com has responses' message_id: 20061218211738.65269.qmail@web60815.mail.yahoo.com posters: - email: publiustemp-perl6users@yahoo.com name: Ovid subject: 'take: bug or feature?' summary: '' - date_from: 1166566410 date_to: 1166653452 hidden: ~ message_id: 152837.53305.qm@web60820.mail.yahoo.com messages: - 45896441.1050309@jrock.us - 20061220220037.GA25191@wall.org posters: - email: publiustemp-perl6users@yahoo.com name: Ovid - email: jon@jrock.us name: Jonathan Rockway - email: larry@wall.org name: Larry Wall subject: Junctions as arguments (Pugs bug) summary: |- Ovid included a code snippet where he was casting a junction as a string and received unexpected results. He wanted to know what the proper response was, in order to write a test. Jonathan Rockway was not sure what output could be expected from say-ing a junction. He saw two possibilities, and thought that Ovid's expectation was better, but wanted to hear other opinions before tests were added. Larry Wall answered that what Ovid described was standard autothreading behavior, as described in S09. title: Users - name: perl6-compiler threads: - date_from: 1166477295 date_to: 1166482681 hidden: ~ message_id: 719221.79202.qm@web60818.mail.yahoo.com messages: - m2psagj324.fsf@cs.ucsd.edu - 914307.99661.qm@web60824.mail.yahoo.com posters: - email: publiustemp-perl6compiler2@yahoo.com name: Ovid - email: sorourke@cs.ucsd.edu name: Sean O'Rourke subject: 'take: bug or feature?' summary: |- Ovid posted some code which was failing with the latest Pugs and asked if there was a problem with the code or Pugs. Sean O'Rourke also thought it was a bug. Ovid later confirmed that it was a bug and it was being worked on. title: Compiler title: Weekly Perl 6 mailing list summary