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Comments on this summary can be sent to Ann Barcomb, . title: Acknowlegements - body: |- This summary can be found in the following places: * [use.perl.org](http://use.perl.org/) * [The Pugs blog](http://pugs.blogs.com/) * [The perl6-announce mailing list](http://lists.cpan.org/showlist.cgi?name=perl6-announce) * [ONLamp](http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/) title: Distribution header: - body: |- "Your faithful Dynamic Environmentalist" -- closing signature of Bob Rogers in '' title: This week on the Perl 6 mailing lists see_also: - name: Perl Foundation activities uri: http://blog.perlfoundation.org - name: Perl 6 Development uri: http://dev.perl.org/perl6 - name: Planet Perl Six uri: http://planetsix.perlfoundation.org/ lists: - name: perl6-language threads: - date_from: 1164820874 date_to: 1165267556 hidden: ~ message_id: 20061129172051.1E7EBCBA1B@x12.develooper.com messages: - 456E99BC.30008@barco.com - 20061130174637.GB18580@wall.org - 45706C1E.5010104@barco.com - 'p06230901c19678a1c3b2@[192.168.1.101]' - 457415E9.6080507@barco.com - 'p06230900c19a41ddf902@[192.168.1.101]' - 20061129235209.GA2998@stripey.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry - email: Thomas.Sandlass@barco.com name: TSa - email: larry@wall.org name: Larry Wall - email: darren@DarrenDuncan.net name: Darren Duncan - email: Smylers@stripey.com name: Smylers subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13487 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: |- Last week, a commit from Larry Wall related to expanding tabs led TSa to ask if array equivalence should be defined in terms of Bags. Larry replied that he felt most people would prefer to look at Sets and Bags as Hashes, so he will not include Sets and Bags in the smartmatching table. Darren Duncan also felt that the current summary in Synopsis 6 was adequate. This week, TSa responded to Darren's request that any change requests be explained in detail. According to TSa, the intent was not to change the synopsis but to have a few points clarified on list, such as the subtype relationship between Set and Bag. TSa also asked if KeyHash, KeySet and KeyBag are forced in to sigiled variables. Darren replied that he would expect that they would work like hashes. - date_from: 1165340271 date_to: 1165340271 hidden: ~ message_id: 20061205173728.9701ACBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13488 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: |- In this commit, Larry Wall clarified the relationship between Set/Bag and KeyHash. - date_from: 1165367992 date_to: 1165367992 hidden: ~ message_id: 20061206011941.A0EA6CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: larry@cvs.perl.org name: larry subject: '[svn:perl6-synopsis] r13489 - doc/trunk/design/syn' summary: |- Larry Wall elaborated on `gather`, which has been modified to be more like `do` in that it allows any statement. - date_from: 1165452276 date_to: 1165452276 hidden: ~ message_id: 001e01c71998$e1f4f900$45084447@JoeGottman1 posters: - email: jgottman@carolina.rr.com name: Joe Gottman subject: Gather/Take and threads summary: |- Given a gather block which spawns multiple threads, Joe Gottman wanted to know if it is guaranteed that no object returned is lost, given that the relative order of items returned is indeterminate. title: Language - name: perl6-internals threads: - date_from: 1163269088 date_to: 1165095299 hidden: 'why is this included? Range was from 3 December.' message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13129-1164944740-1422.40815-15-0@perl.org messages: - 456FAEA4.8030603@wiwb.uscourts.gov - 200612011013.45472.chromatic@wgz.org - 20061202213428.GB80469@plum.flirble.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165069770-128.40815-15-0@perl.org - 456FAEA4.8030603@wiwb.uscourts.gov - 200612011013.45472.chromatic@wgz.org - 20061202213428.GB80469@plum.flirble.org - rt-3.5.HEAD-1762-1163279815-1426.40815-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.5.HEAD-1713-1163269053-1310.40815-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan via RT - email: andy_bach@wiwb.uscourts.gov name: Andy Bach - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic - email: nick@ccl4.org name: Nicholas Clark rt_ticket: 'perl #40815' subject: "[perl #40815] Summary of 'make test' failures on Darwin " summary: '' - date_from: 1163386647 date_to: 1165730158 hidden: ~ message_id: 17751.57028.857483.568233@rgrjr.dyndns.org messages: - 455D1095.1070704@perl.org - 17757.8593.340295.932814@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 456A4A04.5040605@perl.org - 17771.43711.219921.948002@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 457793E5.7070108@perl.org - 17784.55404.703631.256678@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 17767.15610.126503.955485@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 17752.26881.872165.542999@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 200611132119.26409.lt@toetsch.at - 17753.16342.844756.184556@rgrjr.dyndns.org - 17759.56391.712650.895123@rgrjr.dyndns.org posters: - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org name: Bob Rogers - email: allison@perl.org name: Allison Randal - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch subject: 'RFC: Proposal for dynamic binding' summary: |- This thread was started by Bob Roger's proposal for dynamic binding. He compared two options, and later gave an analysis of a third (STM) at Leopold Toetsch's request. Last week, Allison Randal responded to the proposal with the question of why dynamic binding should only apply to globals. She stated that the proposed implementation was not being approved, but noted that one of Bob's ideas concerning threads was of particular interest and likely to be included at some point. Bob replied in depth to the points she raised and asked if he could improve the proposal or if he should give it up. This week there was further discussion between Allison and Bob. - date_from: 1164054905 date_to: 1164256653 hidden: out of range message_id: 45635F6C.6000502@perl.org messages: - 198c87380611211245h2a0c0426ha0264629c7bab0c0@mail.gmail.com - 45637921.5010900@perl.org - rc0d34-gc2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org - 45652586.8050406@perl.org - 198c87380611220102v575b8ff7lcc2672c77b1474cf@mail.gmail.com - 45652565.2020304@perl.org - 198c87380611230913m2b576aa2hb4d7b295bce7b79a@mail.gmail.com - 45779EF3.10802@perl.org - 17765.56614.874693.918194@rgrjr.dyndns.org - rt-3.5.HEAD-32138-1164060295-1642.40955-14-0@perl.org - rt-3.5.HEAD-25797-1164054843-802.40955-72-0@perl.org - 198c87380611211245h2a0c0426ha0264629c7bab0c0@mail.gmail.com - 45637921.5010900@perl.org - rc0d34-gc2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org - 45652586.8050406@perl.org - 198c87380611220102v575b8ff7lcc2672c77b1474cf@mail.gmail.com - 45652565.2020304@perl.org - 198c87380611230913m2b576aa2hb4d7b295bce7b79a@mail.gmail.com - 45779EF3.10802@perl.org - 17765.56614.874693.918194@rgrjr.dyndns.org posters: - email: allison@perl.org name: Allison Randal - email: mddiep@gmail.com name: Matt Diephouse - email: benmorrow@tiscali.co.uk name: Ben Morrow - email: rogers-perl6@rgrjr.dyndns.org name: Bob Rogers - email: bugs-parrot-track@netlabs.develooper.com name: Matt Diephouse via RT subject: "Re: [perl #40955] [BUG] :anon .subs aren't anchored to a namespace" summary: '' - date_from: 1164061270 date_to: 1165465415 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-25797-1164061227-723.40958-72-0@perl.org messages: - 200612062022.51499.chromatic@wgz.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Patrick R . Michaud - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic rt_ticket: 'perl #40958' subject: "[perl #40958] [BUG] - can't iterate subclass of ResizablePMCArray " summary: |- chromatic responded to ticket by including a patch which demonstrates the problem in the iteration code within the PMC. He noted that this is not the correct fix. - date_from: 1164217046 date_to: 1165434411 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.5.HEAD-25797-1164213804-63.40966-72-0@perl.org messages: - 198c87380612051139n56df856ak8fd6135043aa4aa7@mail.gmail.com - 200612052122.51131.lt@toetsch.at - 198c87380612051307q146ccc2clc87e05c226263419@mail.gmail.com - 200612062046.23730.lt@toetsch.at - 198c87380612051139n56df856ak8fd6135043aa4aa7@mail.gmail.com - 200612052122.51131.lt@toetsch.at - 198c87380612051307q146ccc2clc87e05c226263419@mail.gmail.com - 200612062046.23730.lt@toetsch.at - 200612052122.51131.lt@toetsch.at - 198c87380612051307q146ccc2clc87e05c226263419@mail.gmail.com - 200612062046.23730.lt@toetsch.at posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Patrick R . Michaud - email: mddiep@gmail.com name: Matt Diephouse - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch rt_ticket: 'perl #40966' subject: '[perl #40966] [BUG] Parrot core dumps in perl6 (possible GC/pointer bug?) ' summary: |- Earlier, Patrick R. Michaud reported a bug in ticket . This week, Matt Diephouse responded. He had seen the error in a different test, and identified the failing assertion. The problem seems to be that constant strings are being garbage collected too soon. He supplied a patch to not collect any constant PObj headers, but was not certain that was what should happen. Leopold Toetsch replied that if they were being collected, they were being initially created in different object pools and then stored as constants. He requested information about the origin and contents of the constant, in order to track down where it was being created. - date_from: 1164601836 date_to: 1165500886 hidden: ~ message_id: 456A69E8.1070604@perl.org messages: - 20061127072144.GA24482@host.pmichaud.com - 456B87CF.9020009@kasuku.org - 456AAC50.80902@perl.org - 20061127224321.GF11812@host.pmichaud.com - 456BC708.90700@kasuku.org - 20061128071725.GA16202@host.pmichaud.com - 456E1697.5040700@kasuku.org - 456BD381.7040508@kasuku.org - 20061128075157.GB16202@host.pmichaud.com - 200611282227.10417.lt@toetsch.at - 200611282012.57964.lt@toetsch.at - 4577B5C9.2010600@kasuku.org - 20061207141423.GA23970@host.pmichaud.com - 20061127072238.GB24482@host.pmichaud.com - 456B33DD.8000405@perl.org - 20061127192237.GD11812@host.pmichaud.com - 456B90DB.9070709@kasuku.org - 20061128042032.GA26256@host.pmichaud.com - 456BD381.7040508@kasuku.org - 20061128075157.GB16202@host.pmichaud.com - 200611282227.10417.lt@toetsch.at - 200611282012.57964.lt@toetsch.at - 4577B5C9.2010600@kasuku.org - 20061207141423.GA23970@host.pmichaud.com posters: - email: allison@perl.org name: Allison Randal - email: pmichaud@pobox.com name: Patrick R. Michaud - email: lt@toetsch.at name: Leopold Toetsch subject: 'Initial feedback on PAST-pm, or Partridge' summary: |- Earlier, Allison Randal initiated a discussion on Partridge (PAST-pm) with a post of her comments on user experience and implementation. One subthread which developed dealt with a number of unrelated points. Leopold Toetsch joined Allison and Patrick R. Michaud in this thread. One of the topics involved Parrot limitations related to :init methods. This week, Allison responded to a proposal from Patrick and asked if he had thought further about the syntax for initialization. She also agreed with treating moving code generation out of POST node objects as low priority. Patrick replied to some of the points. - date_from: 1164876532 date_to: 1165183749 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13129-1164943549-444.41020-15-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-13128-1165119734-1923.41020-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165183711-726.41020-15-0@perl.org - rt-3.6.HEAD-13128-1164876510-178.41020-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan via RT rt_ticket: 'perl #41020' subject: '[perl #41020] [PATCH] pmc2c.pl functionality extracted into separate package ' summary: |- Earlier, in ticket , James Keenan supplied a patch to make `pmc2c.pl` easier to test. This involved putting most of the subroutines in a new package. He fixed a problem with `GetOptions` but thought there were additional corrections to be made. This week, James wrote that he had underestimated the challenges in testing Parrot build tools. He explained the problem, which involved the files which exist and the state of the system at the time that the tests are run, and concluded by asking what was the goal of testing the build tools. - date_from: 1165182894 date_to: 1165248322 hidden: ~ message_id: 4573477B.7070905@iki.fi messages: - 45744711.3030208@iki.fi posters: - email: jhi@iki.fi name: Jarkko Hietaniemi subject: '[PATCH] tru64: compile (src/nci.c) and runtime (src/memory.c)' summary: |- Jarkko Hietaniemi submitted two patches. One was to allow the Parrot trunk to compile in Tru64, and the second one was to eliminate some core dumps. - date_from: 1165208970 date_to: 1165216096 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165208963-1687.41044-72-0@perl.org messages: - 8e8ee0d40612032308r220b2ab4lb809eb66bfa07b80@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Will Coleda - email: paultcochrane@gmail.com name: Paul Cochrane rt_ticket: 'perl #41044' subject: '[perl #41044] use warnings not clean ' summary: |- In ticket , Will Coleda reported a problem with loading the platform and local hints file. - date_from: 1165241760 date_to: 1165241760 hidden: summary message_id: 20061204141500.28109.qmail@x1.develooper.com posters: - email: perlbug-summary@perl.org name: Parrot Bug Summary subject: Parrot Bug Summary summary: '' - date_from: 1165260759 date_to: 1165263342 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165260748-1141.41047-72-0@perl.org messages: - rt-3.6.HEAD-13127-1165263327-1014.41047-15-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Patrick R . Michaud rt_ticket: 'perl #41047' subject: "[perl #41047] [BUG] :multi doesn't work with :outer " summary: |- Patrick R. Michaud created ticket to report an error with the `:multi` pragma when `:outer` is present. Matt Diephouse reported it fixed in r15971. - date_from: 1165364201 date_to: 1165372626 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13127-1165364192-393.41051-72-0@perl.org messages: - 987D1F0E-18A5-4BF3-8ED1-798469CB89B6@coleda.com posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan - email: will@coleda.com name: Will Coleda rt_ticket: 'perl #41051' subject: "[perl #41051] [PATCH]: Configure.pl: Spell out what 'ICU' means " summary: |- James Keenan created ticket to request that the POD in `Configure.pl` use 'International Components for Unicode' instead of 'ICU' for clarity. Will Coleda applied the patch as r16021. - date_from: 1165376537 date_to: 1165376537 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13127-1165376529-732.41052-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan rt_ticket: 'perl #41052' subject: '[perl #41052] [PATCH]: docs/configuration.pod: Small grammatical corrections ' summary: |- In ticket , James Keenan included a patch to correct grammar in `docs/configuration.pod`. - date_from: 1165385096 date_to: 1165385096 hidden: 'I/O PDD is a work in progress, when it is ready I trust Allison will announce it' message_id: 20061206060444.726A6CBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: allison@cvs.perl.org name: allison subject: '[svn:parrot-pdd] r16022 - trunk/docs/pdds/clip' summary: '' - date_from: 1165391048 date_to: 1165394300 hidden: ~ message_id: 200612052343.47230.chromatic@wgz.org messages: - da43c2e0612060037q9d5de92u276b0db600a2e9c1@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: chromatic@wgz.org name: chromatic - email: lee.duhem@gmail.com name: Lee Duhem subject: Bug Day! summary: |- chromatic suggested a virtual gathering on the 16th in #parrot. The purpose of the meeting is to examine the bug database to verify, fix, or resolve issues. Additionally, this meeting would serve to help curious newcomers get started. Lee Duhem felt that some examples could be cleaned up to make it easier for people to get started. - date_from: 1165426838 date_to: 1165426838 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165426787-1693.41053-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: Bernhard Schmalhofer rt_ticket: 'perl #41053' subject: '[perl #41053] [TODO] More useful dumping of Env PMC ' summary: |- Bernhard Schmalhofer thought that generic Hash dumping functionality would make it easier to see things such as the Env PMC. This request was ticket . - date_from: 1165458644 date_to: 1165461790 hidden: ~ message_id: 20061207023035.E2574CBA1B@x12.develooper.com messages: - da43c2e0612061922i4f3204ffv3bf61f3b571803b4@mail.gmail.com posters: - email: allison@cvs.perl.org name: allison - email: lee.duhem@gmail.com name: Lee Duhem subject: '[svn:parrot-pdd] r16036 - trunk/docs/pdds/clip' summary: |- Allison Randal added additional notes to the overview PDD on the target platforms for Parrot. The requirement for the 1.0 release of Parrot is that it be supported on major versions of Linux, BSD, Mac OS X and Windows. - date_from: 1165459551 date_to: 1165459551 hidden: not much added message_id: 20061207024539.7240DCBA1B@x12.develooper.com posters: - email: allison@cvs.perl.org name: allison subject: '[svn:parrot-pdd] r16037 - trunk/docs/pdds/clip' summary: '' - date_from: 1165578932 date_to: 1165578932 hidden: ~ message_id: rt-3.6.HEAD-13126-1165578920-639.41055-72-0@perl.org posters: - email: parrotbug-followup@parrotcode.org name: James Keenan rt_ticket: 'perl #41055' subject: "[perl #41055] [BUG]: 'Argument is not numeric' warning in Darwin configuration " summary: |- In ticket , James Keenan registered a bug with running `perl Configure.pl`, which seemed to be related to having a 3-level version number. title: Parrot Porters - name: perl6-users threads: [] title: Users - name: perl6-compiler threads: [] title: Compiler title: Weekly Perl 6 mailing list summary